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OK... here goes.
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Ivan wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:16 pm I only found out about the meeting just now :(
It would be great to see all of you, but my knowledge of spoken English hardly allowed me to participate in the conversation. Hello everyone!

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Understandable but there is also the possibility to write your comments and send them to everyone and so anybody can answer you by writing

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arnedanielsen wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:53 pm OK... here goes.

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Hi Arne,

Thank you very much and thank you for making the image small so we all look better then in original :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Thanks Arne!!!

You managed to catch me with the coffee cup in front too...at least it protects my true identity :lol:

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Brian.
That time of day I often have coffee too, or a cup of nice hot tea! I have been cutting back on beer a bit and tea has been a good replacement. I hardly drink soft drinks, sodas at all. Usually if I do it's Root Beer or Mountain Dew.

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Hi Rainer,
This is a great idea!

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Hi Ivan,

You are not the only one not having English as your first language and I'm sure you would be fine.

Hope you will be able to attend next time!

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Ivan wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 6:16 pm I only found out about the meeting just now :(
It would be great to see all of you, but my knowledge of spoken English hardly allowed me to participate in the conversation. Hello everyone!

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Ivan,
I was hoping you would be there. A lot of people speaking " proper English " probably cannot half understand my Appalachian English. I bet Alexandra thinks " Is he really speaking English '!!??

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Hi, I would certainly be interested in joining the next one.


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DeepSolar64 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:14 pm Ivan,
I was hoping you would be there. A lot of people speaking " proper English " probably cannot half understand my Appalachian English. I bet Alexandra thinks " Is he really speaking English '!!??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_English

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She could hire Henry Higgins to work with you. :D


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rigel123 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:26 am
DeepSolar64 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:14 pm Ivan,
I was hoping you would be there. A lot of people speaking " proper English " probably cannot half understand my Appalachian English. I bet Alexandra thinks " Is he really speaking English '!!??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_English

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She could hire Henry Higgins to work with you. :D

:lol: That might work!! ;)


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I had to look up who Henry Higgins is :lol: We watch so many American films and TV since a kid I've heard it all :)

Yes, good point, a Zoom meeting with English spoken at hundred miles per hour could be quite off putting to our non English speaking friends. On the next Zoom meeting we must be more mindful of this. If English isn't your first language, please be assured you are very welcome, make yourself known using the chat box. We can then all speak a little slower and keep checking the chat box to make sure you are OK and following the conversation. If you want to ask questions please do so by the chat box. We want to make this as inclusive as possible.
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I have a hard time keeping up with the proper English as well. :)
I remember talking to Richard Bailey once on video and could mot understand a single word.


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What would everyone say to having a Zoom for whomever wants to attend on the 2nd Saturday of each month at 1400GMT?

We could have:

State of the forum

Current Solar regions of interest

Latest hardware/software

Maybe someone could do a 10 minute presentation on a topic of interest

Free form discussion

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Dang, I missed this.
solarchat wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:23 pm What would everyone say to having a Zoom for whomever wants to attend on the 2nd Saturday of each month at 1400GMT?

We could have:

State of the forum

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Maybe someone could do a 10 minute presentation on a topic of interest

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any other ideas.
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Stephen and all...

I will work with what ever day/time fits the majority, keeping in mind that we cover a wide number of time zones and complications that introduces. I have found the Sunday, 18:00 GMT window worked well int he past as it put the time form early evening in Europe through mid morning on the Pacific coast, but it doesn't need to stay that way.

A suggestion might be to post a poll to as folks what their primary choice of day and time is, and maybe a secondary choice and build around the closest match to those who respond, or offer a few fixed dates/times and choose from there (fewer variable to deal with). Just thinking out loud ;)

There have been several post about those who do not speak English as their primary language, and I 'm sure we can make the best effort to accommodate everyone. Some apologize for their posts, citing the language barrier, but the posted text is nothing to be apologizing for ;) Probably better than my English :lol: If questions and comments can be posted in the chat comments, we can work through that media when it is the better way.

Lets see hat we can do to make it a viable option for as many members as possible.

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I appreciate your work on this Brian, I thoroughly enjoyed the session and love hearing the different ideas and input from other members. Of course I thought about a bunch of different questions once I dropped off the call but I'll write them down for future meetings!


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Is GMT the same as UTC?


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DeepSolar64 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 3:56 pm Is GMT the same as UTC?
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I would probably prefer Sundays over Saturdays but I'm flexible.


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I missed the zoom meeting again...


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rigel123 wrote: Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:55 pm I would probably prefer Sundays over Saturdays but I'm flexible.

Same here at the current time. Once COVID-19 allows me back in church 18:00 UTC may be a bit early though. Saturday at 18:00 UTC would usually work for me as well. Especially once I return to church.

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DeepSolar64 wrote: Tue Jan 18, 2022 7:14 pm Ivan,
I was hoping you would be there. A lot of people speaking " proper English " probably cannot half understand my Appalachian English. I bet Alexandra thinks " Is he really speaking English '!!??

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appalachian_English

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James, I only found out about this on Monday. But in any case, on Sunday we were visiting my mother-in-law and returned late.
My English is very weak and without an interpreter I can hardly understand the spoken language, but in any case I will gladly join the meeting. I can write something in the chat and see everyone.

the 2nd Saturday of each month at 14:00 GMT is great if it suits everyone. If not, then I'm ready for any other time.

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Ivan,
I often don't talk a lot either. Most here know more on imaging and the technology of solar observing than I do. I listen and learn. I probably talked more on this last meeting than any of the previous ones.

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Thanks for sharing the pic of us all. I lived in Scotland, Glasgow for 20 yrs never did understand Glaswegian, they speed talk, and my son in law is from there, no hope, lol.


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I know on Google Meets you can actually set it so it actually shows printed what everyone is saying. You gotta wonder if there is a virtual meeting program that also does that but also interprets to your language.


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rigel123 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:14 am I know on Google Meets you can actually set it so it actually shows printed what everyone is saying. You gotta wonder if there is a virtual meeting program that also does that but also interprets to your language.
Is this something similar ?

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articl ... BV81PQ07NY


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I’d love to attend. I’ve voted but can work around a time that suits the majority.
Like others have said, it was good to be able to put names to a faces with the zoom photo posted.
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Thanks Rainer, very interesting!

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rsfoto wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:20 am
rigel123 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:14 am I know on Google Meets you can actually set it so it actually shows printed what everyone is saying. You gotta wonder if there is a virtual meeting program that also does that but also interprets to your language.
Is this something similar ?

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articl ... BV81PQ07NY

Oh, it might save me, Thanks Rainer.

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rsfoto wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:20 am
rigel123 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:14 am I know on Google Meets you can actually set it so it actually shows printed what everyone is saying. You gotta wonder if there is a virtual meeting program that also does that but also interprets to your language.
Is this something similar ?

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articl ... BV81PQ07NY
That sounds like the same thing, only don’t know if there is any translation function, but since Zoom is universal it would be interesting to test it out with various people to see what the function looks like. The one I participated in on Google Meet was in English and did an accurate job of providing a transcript as people were talking.

So I did a bit of Googling, and it turns out Zoom doesn’t actually translate the meeting, you can add translators to the meetings, but there is software called Lingmo that can do this but it is $27/month per participant.


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Zoom works fine for me. My computer lacks a microphone so I use it on my iPhone.


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rigel123 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:01 pm
rsfoto wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:20 am
rigel123 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:14 am I know on Google Meets you can actually set it so it actually shows printed what everyone is saying. You gotta wonder if there is a virtual meeting program that also does that but also interprets to your language.
Is this something similar ?

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articl ... BV81PQ07NY
That sounds like the same thing, only don’t know if there is any translation function, but since Zoom is universal it would be interesting to test it out with various people to see what the function looks like. The one I participated in on Google Meet was in English and did an accurate job of providing a transcript as people were talking.

So I did a bit of Googling, and it turns out Zoom doesn’t actually translate the meeting, you can add translators to the meetings, but there is software called Lingmo that can do this but it is $27/month per participant.
Thanks Warren. It is a pity that there is no free version with a translator.

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I mixed up the time for the last meeting, but am very interested in a regular meeting. Any time is ok with me


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Ivan wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:35 pm
rigel123 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:01 pm
rsfoto wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:20 am

Is this something similar ?

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articl ... BV81PQ07NY
That sounds like the same thing, only don’t know if there is any translation function, but since Zoom is universal it would be interesting to test it out with various people to see what the function looks like. The one I participated in on Google Meet was in English and did an accurate job of providing a transcript as people were talking.

So I did a bit of Googling, and it turns out Zoom doesn’t actually translate the meeting, you can add translators to the meetings, but there is software called Lingmo that can do this but it is $27/month per participant.
Thanks Warren. It is a pity that there is no free version with a translator.

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rigel123 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:54 am
Ivan wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:35 pm [quote=rigel123 post_id=319881 time=1642680072
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but can you read English or is your computer translating what we write on this forum? And does it translate what you write back to us??
Warren, there are some things I can read and understand, but mostly I use a translator.

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Ivan wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:35 am
rigel123 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:54 am
Ivan wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:35 pm [quote=rigel123 post_id=319881 time=1642680072
Forgive me if this is a dumb question, but can you read English or is your computer translating what we write on this forum? And does it translate what you write back to us??
Warren, there are some things I can read and understand, but mostly I use a translator.

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rigel123 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:54 am
Ivan wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:35 pm
rigel123 wrote: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:01 pm

That sounds like the same thing, only don’t know if there is any translation function, but since Zoom is universal it would be interesting to test it out with various people to see what the function looks like. The one I participated in on Google Meet was in English and did an accurate job of providing a transcript as people were talking.

So I did a bit of Googling, and it turns out Zoom doesn’t actually translate the meeting, you can add translators to the meetings, but there is software called Lingmo that can do this but it is $27/month per participant.
Thanks Warren. It is a pity that there is no free version with a translator.

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Ivan and Minh,
Both of you do well here not to be native English speakers. I certainly don’t have any trouble communicating with you.

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DeepSolar64 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:17 pm Ivan and Minh,
Both of you do well here not to be native English speakers. I certainly don’t have any trouble communicating with you.

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Same here!!


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rigel123 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:56 pm
DeepSolar64 wrote: Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:17 pm Ivan and Minh,
Both of you do well here not to be native English speakers. I certainly don’t have any trouble communicating with you.

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Agree, put me on a Russian or Vietnamese Forum and I would be totally lost!!
Warren, I think Google Translate would save you the way it saves me. The main difficulty is live communication.

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It's a challenge to make communication seamless, but we can do our best to accommodate those that have trouble with the conversations.

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