New Setup, New Pier 26th February
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New Setup, New Pier 26th February
Friday was the 'perfect storm'. High pressure sat squarely over the UK with clear skies, a work at home day booked, my new pier arriving and the first real opportunity to test out the double stack unit on my SM90. The day was not without drama, as I was contacted by my courier saying I wasn't answering the door for the delivery, turns out he was trying to deliver to the same street address but in a different local town, the driver had decided he 'knew the area' and doesn't use (or carry) sat nav (GPS) After about 20 minutes of guided conversation to get him where he should be, he finally arrived announcing 'didn't know this was here' - clearly not!!! I will be contacting UPS as it appears once items get to their regional sorting hub they sub contract out to 'any man with a white van' which is what happened here... I think the only reason it wasn't left on somebody else doorstep is that he couldn't lift it himself, I had to help him get it out of the back of the van
I'm very pleased with it, sent my family a picture and my mother announced it looked like a farm gate post, I can see where shes coming from
P1000695 by Mark Townley, on Flickr
P1000699 by Mark Townley, on Flickr
All in with the mount head, counterweights and scope it tops in at way over 100kg and is rock solid. I plan to mass load it internally with sand so should bring in total weight to about a quarter of a tonne. While the paving slabs you may think will move, they're going to be more of a 'facade' as the pier will be fixed by oversize (400mm length) threaded rod bonded in place with chemical resin - think it being fixed by piles rather than being bolted to the slabs. Scope will sit about 2m above the ground to minimise any effects of local heating and load the dice with seeing as much as I can in my favour. Longer term I may put a small raised deck area around it to image from, but we'll see, i'm not fazed by the height of it as the existing one i've been using is about 250mm higher (and a lot less stable!)...
Anyway, the imaging for the day. The tilt tuner arrived for SM90 double stack unit I recently bought, and those experienced will know it is always a tentative moment matching etalons, fortunately, knowing my SM90ii scopes origins, and the origins of the external etalon I was confident there would be a synergy. There is, and I spent quite a bit of time observing visually, swapping my different eyepieces and just taking it all in. When I started solar many years ago I had a Coronado SM40, and with a month I had it double stacked. From only ever doing white light prior to this going to a (good) double stack setup the views were awe inspiring! The only way I can describe yesterdays views were like this all over again, but with 90mm aperture instead of 40mm, and considerably more experience on my part! I can see this scope is going to be an outreach monster when covid restrictions allow outreach again...
Anyway to the images, I know to use this for full disks i'm going to need to clock the front etalon relative to the internal one for optimal performance, but that's an easy job. All pics are pretty much 'as they come out' no messing with gamma etc just sharpening and levels in ImPPG.
Ha-DS90-bw by Mark Townley, on Flickr
Ha-DS90-colour by Mark Townley, on Flickr
Next throwing on the 2x cemax barlow and the IMX174 camera (I need to tilt in future to remove the subtle banding).
ar12804-ha-ds90-bw by Mark Townley, on Flickr
ar12804-ha-ds90-colour by Mark Townley, on Flickr
ar12805-ha-ds90-bw by Mark Townley, on Flickr
ar12805-ha-ds90-colour by Mark Townley, on Flickr
ars-ds90-ha-bw by Mark Townley, on Flickr
ars-ds90-ha-colour by Mark Townley, on Flickr
prom-bw by Mark Townley, on Flickr
prom-colour by Mark Townley, on Flickr
This setup has more to give yet, and I have some more mods planned to improve things further. In DS mode i'm exposing at a pleasant 3ms, and plan to shorten that down further yet. With my 50mm DS setup ideal for 4 winter months of the year, and travelling, poor seeing aside this DS90 is set to be my resident FD and mid scale Ha rig for the other 8 months.
All in a very pleasing friday. I'm up at this early hour this morning as i'm going to nip out in a bit a do a polar align. I might mull exact position of the pier on the pad for a month or so before final fixing, as once it is fixed it aint going anywhere without a back hoe loader and a lot of work Clear skies forecast for today, so I will see what the seeing is like first thing and then target with the according aperture and wavelength.
Best wishes.
Mark
I'm very pleased with it, sent my family a picture and my mother announced it looked like a farm gate post, I can see where shes coming from
P1000695 by Mark Townley, on Flickr
P1000699 by Mark Townley, on Flickr
All in with the mount head, counterweights and scope it tops in at way over 100kg and is rock solid. I plan to mass load it internally with sand so should bring in total weight to about a quarter of a tonne. While the paving slabs you may think will move, they're going to be more of a 'facade' as the pier will be fixed by oversize (400mm length) threaded rod bonded in place with chemical resin - think it being fixed by piles rather than being bolted to the slabs. Scope will sit about 2m above the ground to minimise any effects of local heating and load the dice with seeing as much as I can in my favour. Longer term I may put a small raised deck area around it to image from, but we'll see, i'm not fazed by the height of it as the existing one i've been using is about 250mm higher (and a lot less stable!)...
Anyway, the imaging for the day. The tilt tuner arrived for SM90 double stack unit I recently bought, and those experienced will know it is always a tentative moment matching etalons, fortunately, knowing my SM90ii scopes origins, and the origins of the external etalon I was confident there would be a synergy. There is, and I spent quite a bit of time observing visually, swapping my different eyepieces and just taking it all in. When I started solar many years ago I had a Coronado SM40, and with a month I had it double stacked. From only ever doing white light prior to this going to a (good) double stack setup the views were awe inspiring! The only way I can describe yesterdays views were like this all over again, but with 90mm aperture instead of 40mm, and considerably more experience on my part! I can see this scope is going to be an outreach monster when covid restrictions allow outreach again...
Anyway to the images, I know to use this for full disks i'm going to need to clock the front etalon relative to the internal one for optimal performance, but that's an easy job. All pics are pretty much 'as they come out' no messing with gamma etc just sharpening and levels in ImPPG.
Ha-DS90-bw by Mark Townley, on Flickr
Ha-DS90-colour by Mark Townley, on Flickr
Next throwing on the 2x cemax barlow and the IMX174 camera (I need to tilt in future to remove the subtle banding).
ar12804-ha-ds90-bw by Mark Townley, on Flickr
ar12804-ha-ds90-colour by Mark Townley, on Flickr
ar12805-ha-ds90-bw by Mark Townley, on Flickr
ar12805-ha-ds90-colour by Mark Townley, on Flickr
ars-ds90-ha-bw by Mark Townley, on Flickr
ars-ds90-ha-colour by Mark Townley, on Flickr
prom-bw by Mark Townley, on Flickr
prom-colour by Mark Townley, on Flickr
This setup has more to give yet, and I have some more mods planned to improve things further. In DS mode i'm exposing at a pleasant 3ms, and plan to shorten that down further yet. With my 50mm DS setup ideal for 4 winter months of the year, and travelling, poor seeing aside this DS90 is set to be my resident FD and mid scale Ha rig for the other 8 months.
All in a very pleasing friday. I'm up at this early hour this morning as i'm going to nip out in a bit a do a polar align. I might mull exact position of the pier on the pad for a month or so before final fixing, as once it is fixed it aint going anywhere without a back hoe loader and a lot of work Clear skies forecast for today, so I will see what the seeing is like first thing and then target with the according aperture and wavelength.
Best wishes.
Mark
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
Fantastic Mark! Excellent pier and those etalons are really great! Not what I would expect from series II!
Very best,
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
Thanks Marty
The scope itself is a 'prototype' series 2 model, it was the first one imported into the UK and was used as a review scope for the media. Coronado once described it as using a very high finesse etalon, shame they didn't carry the practice on... The double stack unit is actually a primary SM90 etalon that I know required absolutely minimal tilt to be on band used in the UK. Both of these things together should work constructively, so my theory goes, and they do!
Just polar aligned, bit of non-event - Polaris was already in the polar scope and took minimal tweaking to get it where it needs to be. After a bit of satellite watching i've come in as its rather chilly outside - call me a fair weather astronomer but I prefer the (generally!) warm that solar offers
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
Fantastic!
It's deflating sometimes how legendary and rare good etalons are like this. These days, you just can't get a guaranteed good etalon, let alone two!, even if you are willing to pay for it, it seems. I've gone through so many etalons at this point just trying to find something that can do a simple, small, decent full disc and just haven't had any luck with new or used etalons at this point (even my pre-Meade SM60 etalon, despite having awesome contrast, had problems.... sigh!). I sold almost all of them at this point (hence I don't post full HA discs at all). I'm maybe willing to gamble one last time on a Lunt. But I'm hesitant, knowing it's a gamble to get a full disc that is uniform even with that...
Very best,
It's deflating sometimes how legendary and rare good etalons are like this. These days, you just can't get a guaranteed good etalon, let alone two!, even if you are willing to pay for it, it seems. I've gone through so many etalons at this point just trying to find something that can do a simple, small, decent full disc and just haven't had any luck with new or used etalons at this point (even my pre-Meade SM60 etalon, despite having awesome contrast, had problems.... sigh!). I sold almost all of them at this point (hence I don't post full HA discs at all). I'm maybe willing to gamble one last time on a Lunt. But I'm hesitant, knowing it's a gamble to get a full disc that is uniform even with that...
Very best,
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
I know all too well exactly what you mean Marty. I think I was close to double figures with PST etalons before finding one I liked, several sm40 etalons - before I dropped a 'keeper' This is my second SM90 etalon. I did drop on well with my Lunt 50 etalon - random drunken Ebay buy Down the line i'm going to look out for SM40 etalons with a view to resurrecting a DS40 setup for eclipse travel...
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
Congratulations Mark on a very solid and stable setup. It looks like a Heavy Lift Launch vehicle carrying the Townley Solar Telescope to the Sun.!
Those first images using it are really nice too. Good luck on Saturday's skies. It's goodnight for me.
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Those first images using it are really nice too. Good luck on Saturday's skies. It's goodnight for me.
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
It’s all coming together, Mark. The pier looks great and the results from your new Coronado combo don’t disappoint. It’s going to be awesome when the conditions improve as the season progresses. I hope Mrs T approves
I’ve just been outside myself. It is chilly and clear for now (beautiful full Moon), but the forecast isn’t great. I thing today will be a magnetometer catch up day.
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I’ve just been outside myself. It is chilly and clear for now (beautiful full Moon), but the forecast isn’t great. I thing today will be a magnetometer catch up day.
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
Hi Mark
Pier looks freak and your DS SM90 must be nice to use, as the season progresses I look forward to seeing more, your stuff Is really nice to see
Many thanks
Richard
Pier looks freak and your DS SM90 must be nice to use, as the season progresses I look forward to seeing more, your stuff Is really nice to see
Many thanks
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Nice looking setup you've put together, Mark. Should last you a lifetime.
Nice looking setup you've put together, Mark. Should last you a lifetime.
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Awesome! One day I hope to have a permanent pier setup like this, would be so much better than lugging the CGEM out every time, lol! Great shots as well, enjoy the new setup!
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This is a very promising start. Congratuations !
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Congratulations Mark, should improve things. Hopefully we'll get some lovely stable seeing here in the UK so you can get the most out of that scope. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
Congratulations on getting a pier Mark. I'm sure we will all be interested in your project . Keep us posted on your progress.
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A lot of work to get to this but the results speak for themselves, Mark. The images are excellent and this is only the beginning. I am always impressed by your images but look forward to seeing how you will improve what was already very very good.
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
Good to see and hear that your project is coming on so well Mark and it looks great.
Interesting project report and freight-snag too !!!
The forecast-charts are showing that the very-high pressure-region should remain settled over the U.K., for the next three days until at least Monday and quite possibly until Wednesday too, so enjoy the newbie's first lights..
The S.W. prom images are excellent and at present looks very interesting as the SDO images shows.
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Interesting project report and freight-snag too !!!
The forecast-charts are showing that the very-high pressure-region should remain settled over the U.K., for the next three days until at least Monday and quite possibly until Wednesday too, so enjoy the newbie's first lights..
The S.W. prom images are excellent and at present looks very interesting as the SDO images shows.
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Thanks everyone! Not sure what i'm going to name the scope yet, will have to give that some thought!
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Looking good Mark, even down to the base of that rocket. How will you cover it for element protection?
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Great setup Mark and great images as well with the double stack Coronado 90
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It's galvanized, so will keep it good for a while. I might get it powder coated yet, not sure. I quite like the silver rocket look.
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Hi Mark,marktownley wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:43 pmIt's galvanized, so will keep it good for a while. I might get it powder coated yet, not sure. I quite like the silver rocket look.
Nice pier. Will you dowel it onto one of those concrete plates ? Just looking at the images with those four screws leveling the whole enchilada made me shiver ...
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Thanks Rainer,rsfoto wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:33 pmHi Mark,marktownley wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:43 pmIt's galvanized, so will keep it good for a while. I might get it powder coated yet, not sure. I quite like the silver rocket look.
Nice pier. Will you dowel it onto one of those concrete plates ? Just looking at the images with those four screws leveling the whole enchilada made me shiver ...
Yes, it is now anchored too. Drilled down 400mm, encounterd a concrete raft at 250mm, rock anchors chemical resin holding all in place. Filled the pier with pea gravel today, when you do a 'rap test', hitting your knuckles on the side it goes from ringing (pre filled) to a thud. Walking around it, kicking it, hitting it etc results in very little shift at the scope. It ain't going nowhere
Would need your old land rover, low range and a chain to pull him out
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Would you get an old land rover past that greenhouse?
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My vote is for "Scopey McScopeface". Scopey for short though...marktownley wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:08 am Thanks everyone! Not sure what i'm going to name the scope yet, will have to give that some thought!
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Not if it was dark and you needed to use the headlights
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
What an excellent set up Mark, soon you will be getting a dome to cover it I just wonder how you tune the etalons at that height
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Surely "Corona-21"ammonthenephite wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 11:27 amMy vote is for "Scopey McScopeface". Scopey for short though...marktownley wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:08 am Thanks everyone! Not sure what i'm going to name the scope yet, will have to give that some thought!
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
" Corona-21 " That's good!
Lunt 8x32 SUNoculars
Orion 70mm Solar Telescope
Celestron AstroMaster Alt/Az Mount
Meade Coronado SolarMax II 60 DS
Meade Coronado SolarMax II 90 DS
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Astro-Tech AT72EDII with Altair solar wedge
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Orion 70mm Solar Telescope
Celestron AstroMaster Alt/Az Mount
Meade Coronado SolarMax II 60 DS
Meade Coronado SolarMax II 90 DS
Meade Coronado AZS Alt/Az Mount
Astro-Tech AT72EDII with Altair solar wedge
Celestron NexStar 102GT with Altair solar wedge
Losmandy AZ8 Alt/Az Mount
Sky-Watcher AZGTI Alt-Az GoTo mount
Cameras: ZWO ASI178MM, PGR Grasshopper, PGR Flea
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
Not where I live sadly, a dome would draw the wrong type of attention. I have a green waterproof cover that looks like it's a covered rotary washing line, much less eyecatching to your average ruffian...
http://brierleyhillsolar.blogspot.co.uk/
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
I guess that would no be past but ... over ...
regards Rainer
Observatorio Real de 14
San Luis Potosi Mexico
North 22° West 101°
Observatorio Real de 14
San Luis Potosi Mexico
North 22° West 101°
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Re: New Setup, New Pier 26th February
Hi Mark...
Great to see the pier installed and setup with your scopes...very impressive !!!
The solar images look equally great too...nice details all around
Brian
Great to see the pier installed and setup with your scopes...very impressive !!!
The solar images look equally great too...nice details all around
Brian
Brian Colville
Maple Ridge Observatory
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Orion EON 130ED, f7 OTA for Day & Night Use
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WL, G-Band & CaK Setup: Lunt Wedge & Lunt B1800CaK, Baader K-Line and Altair 2nm G-Band filter
ASI1600MM, ASI432MM, ASI294MM Pro, ASI174MM, ASI462MM
Maple Ridge Observatory
Cambray, ON Canada
Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/185395281@N08/albums
10'x15 Roll-off Roof Observatory
Takahashi EM400 Mount carrying:
C14 + Lunt 80ED
Deep Sky Work - ASI294MM Pro+EFW 7x36/Canon 60D (Ha mod), ONAG
Planetary Work - SBIG CFW10, ASI462MM
2.2m Diameter Dome
iOptron CEM70G Mount carrying:
Orion EON 130ED, f7 OTA for Day & Night Use
Ha Setup: Lunt LS80PT/LS75FHa/B1200Ha + Home Brew Lunt Double Stack/B1800Ha on the Orion OTA + Daystar Quantum
WL, G-Band & CaK Setup: Lunt Wedge & Lunt B1800CaK, Baader K-Line and Altair 2nm G-Band filter
ASI1600MM, ASI432MM, ASI294MM Pro, ASI174MM, ASI462MM
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